where did all the charr hides go? - Guild Wars Forums

J45kilo10 · Dec 31, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23

I am a leader for a guild and am in the process of recruiting new members. One of the perks I use to get people to stay in the guild is to offer them a set of armor if they are new to the game or some equipment/help on quests. I have been fighting charr in all locations in search of charr hides for fur, to help better the armor of those who need it. I have killed well over 1000 charr in the past few days and haven't gotten more than 10 hides in that time. And to buy fur squares from the rare materials trader costs 550 gold a piece. When starting ascalon armor for warriors or rangers requires 7 fur, thats 3750 just for fur, not including crafting costs and iron/tanned hide. So my question stands, where did all the charr hides go? I get more blue and purple drops than hides. How are new players supposed to get the armor they need without having to spend over 4k for it? No other class needs such high priced armor as warriors and rangers.

My 2 cents,
Seraph

eom · Dec 31, 2005, 04:55 AM // 04:55

I have also noticed a marked decrease in hides.

eom · Dec 31, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56

I have also noticed a marked decrease in hides

The Yoink · Dec 31, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

well, after some hot tips from our friends on the Korean servers, I went charr hunting, like, the day before the Wintersday stuff started happening (to get charr carvings) and was tagging charr hides left and right. However, after they put the Winterday-item collectors in place I noticed a marked difference in charr hide drops (hardly any were dropping anymore). My guess is they lowered the charr-hide drop rate in anticipation of the amount of players who would be going out to farm charr for carvings to get Wintersday gifts (and, therefore, insuring that fur-squares' value didn't drop down to, say, 10g each). My guess is that when Wintersday is all said and done, and all the collectors have packed up and taken their candy canes and eggnog with them, and everyone and their brother stops killing charr like crazy and head back to their usual haunts, then charr hides will start dropping again.

Sereng Amaranth · Dec 31, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

I bet its an adjustment by Anet.

This isn't supposed to be a week-long game. New armor shouldn't be easy to get.

eom · Dec 31, 2005, 06:43 AM // 06:43

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Originally Posted by The Yoink

well, after some hot tips from our friends on the Korean servers, I went charr hunting, like, the day before the Wintersday stuff started happening (to get charr carvings) and was tagging charr hides left and right. However, after they put the Winterday-item collectors in place I noticed a marked difference in charr hide drops (hardly any were dropping anymore). My guess is they lowered the charr-hide drop rate in anticipation of the amount of players who would be going out to farm charr for carvings to get Wintersday gifts (and, therefore, insuring that fur-squares' value didn't drop down to, say, 10g each). My guess is that when Wintersday is all said and done, and all the collectors have packed up and taken their candy canes and eggnog with them, and everyone and their brother stops killing charr like crazy and head back to their usual haunts, then charr hides will start dropping again.

agreed.
I wonder if maybe they just converted a lot of the hide drops to carvings.

Former Ruling · Dec 31, 2005, 07:05 AM // 07:05

They converted alot of the Hide drops to SHARDS too lol.

I Farm Nolani like noones business (before and during this wintersday update).

A good 20-30 Minutes work before Wintersday could fetch me 20-30 Carvings, and 10-12 hides.
A good 20-30 Minutes work during the Winterday update (and after the 2nd day fix where they HUGELY increased the number of shard drops everywhere) Got me about 30-40 Charr carvings, 0 Charr hides (I get about 1 an hour), and 5-6 CC Shards.

So I'm inclined to beleive this isn't a nerf of Fur Square getting, but rather that they had to decrease the drop rate of hides to fit in Shards.

Takedu · Dec 31, 2005, 09:29 AM // 09:29

Yeah it`s true, i`ve been farming the same area before and after the patch, and the number of hides dropping before the patch is now equal to the number of hides + shards post-patch, with shards having 90% of that number. Too bad, shards are pretty useless compared to charr hides.

alexis firebreather · Jan 03, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

I also agree, but at the same time I would like to see a materials npc fabricating fur, as they do with everything else.

Young Hero · Jan 03, 2006, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Hide drop rate decreased about a month ago for me.Long before Winters day.

pearhk · Jan 03, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

stupid nerf lol
ppl alrdy dont brother to make those non-max armour

more ppl need running to Droknar now !

Pevil Lihatuh · Jan 03, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Fur has always been a PITA to get, right from the start. Used to be a hideous % chance to get it from Charr Hides, so we can certainly do without those dropping less!

I think since playing in April I've had maybe.... 7 fur squares. lol.

Caleb · Jan 03, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh

Fur has always been a PITA to get, right from the start. Used to be a hideous % chance to get it from Charr Hides, so we can certainly do without those dropping less!

I think since playing in April I've had maybe.... 7 fur squares. lol.

The reason to use charr hides is not the chance of salvage you speak of. There is a collector in Ascalon City next to the merchant that trades 4 charr hides for 1 fur square.

Very profitable indeed when charr hides are dropping regularly.

ShadowStorm · Jan 04, 2006, 02:14 AM // 02:14

During the Halloween Update, I was farming charr so I could get Halloween items. At the same time, I was getting enough hides to trade in for about 40-50 Fur Squares per day.

During the Wintersday Update, I decided to do the same thing. I ended up with about the same amount of Wintersday items, but about 2% of the amount of Fur Squares as I got during Halloween.

Just a statistic I thought I'd throw out for everyone to see.

eom · Jan 04, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

last I saw, fur was through the roof at 600.

I wonder if hides will start dropping again in a couple days?

heh...it's always funny when some noob gets pissed at me for trying to scam them when I offer hides at 50 ea.

Pyrea · Jan 04, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Yes, I too have noticed that hides drop very frequently and am inclined to agree that everything will return to normal once Wintersday is over (*sniff)

In the meantime, as price of fur is so high, ive been farming for fur to sell to trader for nice tidy sum

eom · Jan 04, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

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Originally Posted by Pyrrhea

Yes, I too have noticed that hides drop very frequently

OMGWERE DO U FRAM???22

Dentenko · Jan 04, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

I farmed like crazy for 4 hours...only 6 hides a.k.a. one fur square and a half. Last like three months ago I had 14.

I think cc shards are more common....I got 15. Ya hopefully everything will return to normal after Wintersday, and charr hides will be dropping again.

Tarot Ribos · Jan 04, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59

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When starting ascalon armor for warriors or rangers requires 7 fur, thats 3750 just for fur, not including crafting costs and iron/tanned hide.

People seemed to have missed this line, and while it is not directly related to the dropping of Charr Hides, I believe this is worth pointing out:

You only need ONE piece of Ascalon armor to get the damage reduction. The damage reduction is global, not specific to the zone in which the armor is located. WHICH MEANS you only need one square of fur. Maybe 2 if you really want to go for it.

If you're at Droknar's, though... just go Knight's. I don't even think they've got Ascalon at that point in the game. Knight's armor uses Steel Ingots, though, which are far less expensive than Fur Squares.

Now, for the drop rate of Charr Hides... yeah. There's a decrease. Big Time. Normally on a Nolani run, I can expect a Charr Hide at least once. Now, it seems I have just as much luck getting Ectos in UW as I do Hides in Nolani. Which is saying something. And it's true... today, I farmed each location roughly the same amount of time. I suppose overall, I killed more at Nolani than at UW (both soloed)... but the results were 1 Charr Hide for the day, 1 Ecto. CC Shards, meanwhile, were very different. 2 in UW, 7 or so at Nolani. And God-knows-how-many Charr Carvings, which I sold for 40 gold each and made a small fortune.

Dec 31, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23	#1
J45kilo10 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	where did all the charr hides go? I am a leader for a guild and am in the process of recruiting new members. One of the perks I use to get people to stay in the guild is to offer them a set of armor if they are new to the game or some equipment/help on quests. I have been fighting charr in all locations in search of charr hides for fur, to help better the armor of those who need it. I have killed well over 1000 charr in the past few days and haven't gotten more than 10 hides in that time. And to buy fur squares from the rare materials trader costs 550 gold a piece. When starting ascalon armor for warriors or rangers requires 7 fur, thats 3750 just for fur, not including crafting costs and iron/tanned hide. So my question stands, where did all the charr hides go? I get more blue and purple drops than hides. How are new players supposed to get the armor they need without having to spend over 4k for it? No other class needs such high priced armor as warriors and rangers. My 2 cents, Seraph

Jan 04, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30	#16
Pyrea Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Outer Rim Guild: Initiates of Maat	Hides, Fur and Profit Yes, I too have noticed that hides drop very frequently and am inclined to agree that everything will return to normal once Wintersday is over (*sniff) In the meantime, as price of fur is so high, ive been farming for fur to sell to trader for nice tidy sum

Dec 31, 2005, 04:55 AM // 04:55	#2
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	I have also noticed a marked decrease in hides.

Dec 31, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56	#3
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	I have also noticed a marked decrease in hides

Dec 31, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44	#4
The Yoink Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Knights of the Ring Profession: Mo/W	well, after some hot tips from our friends on the Korean servers, I went charr hunting, like, the day before the Wintersday stuff started happening (to get charr carvings) and was tagging charr hides left and right. However, after they put the Winterday-item collectors in place I noticed a marked difference in charr hide drops (hardly any were dropping anymore). My guess is they lowered the charr-hide drop rate in anticipation of the amount of players who would be going out to farm charr for carvings to get Wintersday gifts (and, therefore, insuring that fur-squares' value didn't drop down to, say, 10g each). My guess is that when Wintersday is all said and done, and all the collectors have packed up and taken their candy canes and eggnog with them, and everyone and their brother stops killing charr like crazy and head back to their usual haunts, then charr hides will start dropping again.

Dec 31, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45	#5
Sereng Amaranth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB]	I bet its an adjustment by Anet. This isn't supposed to be a week-long game. New armor shouldn't be easy to get.

Dec 31, 2005, 07:05 AM // 07:05	#7
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	They converted alot of the Hide drops to SHARDS too lol. I Farm Nolani like noones business (before and during this wintersday update). A good 20-30 Minutes work before Wintersday could fetch me 20-30 Carvings, and 10-12 hides. A good 20-30 Minutes work during the Winterday update (and after the 2nd day fix where they HUGELY increased the number of shard drops everywhere) Got me about 30-40 Charr carvings, 0 Charr hides (I get about 1 an hour), and 5-6 CC Shards. So I'm inclined to beleive this isn't a nerf of Fur Square getting, but rather that they had to decrease the drop rate of hides to fit in Shards.

Dec 31, 2005, 09:29 AM // 09:29	#8
Takedu Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	Yeah it`s true, i`ve been farming the same area before and after the patch, and the number of hides dropping before the patch is now equal to the number of hides + shards post-patch, with shards having 90% of that number. Too bad, shards are pretty useless compared to charr hides.

Jan 03, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#9
alexis firebreather Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Droks Guild: None ATM Profession: E/	I also agree, but at the same time I would like to see a materials npc fabricating fur, as they do with everything else.

Jan 03, 2006, 05:54 PM // 17:54	#10
Young Hero Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mi Profession: N/Mo	Hide drop rate decreased about a month ago for me.Long before Winters day.

Jan 03, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#11
pearhk Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asia	stupid nerf lol ppl alrdy dont brother to make those non-max armour more ppl need running to Droknar now !

Jan 03, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42	#12
Pevil Lihatuh Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Profession: R/Me	Fur has always been a PITA to get, right from the start. Used to be a hideous % chance to get it from Charr Hides, so we can certainly do without those dropping less! I think since playing in April I've had maybe.... 7 fur squares. lol.

Jan 04, 2006, 02:14 AM // 02:14	#14
ShadowStorm Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Take me where I cannot stand. Guild: The Better Part of Valor Profession: W/N	During the Halloween Update, I was farming charr so I could get Halloween items. At the same time, I was getting enough hides to trade in for about 40-50 Fur Squares per day. During the Wintersday Update, I decided to do the same thing. I ended up with about the same amount of Wintersday items, but about 2% of the amount of Fur Squares as I got during Halloween. Just a statistic I thought I'd throw out for everyone to see.

Jan 04, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23	#15
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	last I saw, fur was through the roof at 600. I wonder if hides will start dropping again in a couple days? heh...it's always funny when some noob gets pissed at me for trying to scam them when I offer hides at 50 ea.

Jan 04, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33	#18
Dentenko Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	I farmed like crazy for 4 hours...only 6 hides a.k.a. one fur square and a half. Last like three months ago I had 14. I think cc shards are more common....I got 15. Ya hopefully everything will return to normal after Wintersday, and charr hides will be dropping again.